Thursday, May 31, 2007


Saw this on the intarw3b this morning, whilst reading my usual Yahoo! headlines with breakfast.

So I read the article. Did a complete eyeroll afterwards, and thought, "Compressed air?, how stupid can you be?" Four minute compression fill at 4K psi? Whatcha using to make that kind of pressure? The article is clearly non-specific, other than to say something in passing about a custom air source (gee, hard to believe that) , or plugging in to the grid to power its on board four hours.

Why is it that people think that plugging their car into their house is somehow "green"? My only guess is that they've been brainwashed into thinking that electricity is somehow "clean" power and that it doesn't have any emissions of its own. How wrong they are isn't any kind of a surprise to me.

Then I saw the comments portion below....and couldn't believe some of the stuff I was reading, to wit:

"the rich oil companies will pay off the American govt. to reject this invention" (I just love the conspiracy laden bullshit)

"Hydrogen allows a car to feel like a real car but only rejects steam. Check out the BMW 750H for a great example" (So, I need to buy a $100K+ German luxury sedan, so that I can fill it up at our non-existent liquid Hydrogen stations, so that it (the hydrogen) can increase my range by a hundred miles, or if we're talking about the electric (fuel cell) version of the hydrogen vehicle, it continually burns off through its on-board electrical generation grid, even while it sits in the garage. Just brilliant.)

"I'm wondering if it could power a small personal helicopter, gyroplane, etc There's no reason why this propulsion technology has to be restricted to cars." (Dude, are you fucking serious?)

"In Chengdu, China, all the taxies have been using Compressed Air (nature Gas) for a couple of years." (Jeezis, I'm assuming this girl means "natural gas", regardless, do these folks even know the difference?)

"The cold air emissions would balance the warm air compression, so ther is not ecological issue." (Didn't you pass physics? You've got to use energy of some sort in order to make the initial pressure. Aside from the heat created from the initial compression(yes, the expansion is cold, but as I just said, aside from any balance created by this), there is a machine of some sort that must be powered by something to make the pressure. It uses resources and isn't just imagined out of thin air. This creates heat. Period. There is NO way around it.)

"the spiking cost of oil after peak world production is reached will impact economies most dependent on oil... USA." (Ah, the Peak Oil scare tactic. I'm really not that concerned with it, and anyone who knows anything about oil exploration also knows that this is nothing but a red herring. The truth is that we haven't even begun to tap all of the reserves yet. The obstacle is actually just getting to that oil.)

"Let us all remember that the good old USofA is owned by big business. They will exert enough pressure on the government to declare the cars unsafe to protect their interests" (More "Big-Business Bogeyman Bullshit")

And my personal favorite:

"The only danger here is from big oil companies creating a hostile market for any non gasoline vehicle. The Bush administration could solve the dependence on oil with the stroke of a pen." (Again, the "Big Oil" conspiracy, somehow preventing the NextBigThing from happening, along with the childish notion that, somehow, it's all Bush's fault, because he could fix it by edict, or something. Note for the clueless on this last bit; it is impossible for politics to fix our "energy addiction" or whatever you want to call it, specifically, and, more generally, it's not likely that politics can fix much of anything, so quit trying to act as if it can, ya dolts!)

The list just goes on and on. These dolts don't understand anything about science or Newton's laws or thermodynamics, or... much of anything, really.

The real problem, as I see it, isn't so much that this type of thing is being investigated at a practical level, it's that there are far too many people, as evidenced by the aforementioned comments, who haven't a clue about what's at stake in this thing. All they care about is the preaching aspect of the whole thing. They've been coopted into believing the drivel that Al Gore and his ilk are absolutely shoving down everyone's throat, and once more, they like it. These same vermin vote, people, and that should scare the living hell out of you. Why?. They will make laws concerning what you can and can't do, and they are convinced they're right about it all.

For the others, it's better to live in Lalaland and believe in the tooth fairy, I suppose. It makes blaming you for their own suckage that much easier, since they get to define what the rules are.

If I made a lot more money, I'd ditch one of my current vehicles and get something with at least 400hp, maybe even 500hp, and drive it like I stole it, everyday, just because I can. Alas, I am poor, and have a huge mortgage to pay for. It'll have to wait.

I'm still completely unapologetic about using resources. Use what you can pay for, and tell the Eco-Preaks to fuck themselves.

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Blogger BobG said...

It's amazing how ignorant of the simple laws of physics some people seem to be. Have you noticed that the "greenest" people seem to be the most stupid? None of them seems to be able to view the side affects and requirements for some of the bullshit that they preach; all they seem to see is what is in front of them at the present, without any thought of how things are effected by the changes they want to make.

1:11 PM  
Blogger Hank Green said...

Just one comment, Using power from the grid is much more efficient than burning fuel in a car. If cars were powered by electricity, they would burn roughly half as much fuel, cost roughly three quarters as much to power, and produce one tenth the NOx and half the carbon.

That's why the air car is a good idea...because grid power is cleaner than ICE power.

2:51 PM  
Blogger theirritablearchitect said...


You are wrong in every respect.

I have the real numbers on my side on this. The science is hard and fast and powering anything other than your lights or your house A/C is consuming more power than is necessary.

I am an architect, and I have to do energy usage calcs all of the time for the buildings I'm designing. I know this issue inside and out. Electricity is a high-grade power source that produces low grade heat. Not good for buildings, especially in extreme climates, and definitely where there is coal being burned for that electricity. Therefore, electricity's potential for locomotion is, by virtue of its distinct lack of proximity of the primary source, wasting energy in storage and transmission. Voltage losses from run time and the heat generated creates higher resistance...It's all a big pooch screw.

Suffice it to say that you don't know what you are talking about. Go away.

3:19 PM  
Blogger Hank Green said...

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4:26 PM  
Blogger theirritablearchitect said...


You are a troll. Stay away.

7:35 PM  
Blogger John R said...

I could not read the referenced article (frames problem on the site). If I understand correctly, they are recommending using compressed air to power a vehicle? This vehicle will also have an onboard emergency compressor in the event they end up in an area w/o "special compressors"?

I am a facilities supervisor for an industrial plant. Our annual electrical bill exceeds $800k. The vast majority of our electrical load is the 500 hp (700 hp available) of low pressure air compressors and 75 hp (150 avail) of high pressure air compressors used to "efficiently" operate our plant.

A very large part of my responsibility is to find ways to reduce or eliminate areas of compressed air usage.

I need to come up with some silly idea that sounds good and can make the granolas feel good about themselves while handing me dollar bills. Seems to be the way to get rich these days.

9:28 PM  
Blogger theirritablearchitect said...


Thanks for dropping by.

I can confirm your suspicions about the subject matter, they are indeed attempting to popularize the notion that their little air car is efficient and viable.

I 'bout laughed hard enough to piss myself.

Anyone who's passed 9th grade physics ought to be able to debunk this little scam, but it seems their are a bunch of folks out there who haven't a grasp of those fundamentals.

I'd assume that some luddite grabbed the idea of using compressed air when someone told them that the basic piston-driven internal combustion engine was basically a large air pump. My dad explained the inner workings of the thing at about age 5 or 6. I actually understood the workings of the thing; how it did move air/gas mixtures and as I got older, gained more understanding of how to design them for more power.

Yes, it moves air/gas, but it's also burning its primary source directly. The dolts who look at electric and now, air cars, just don't understand this. They just look at a gas engine and they've been programmed to say bad things about it.

Sorry, I know I'm preaching to the choir on this, it's just rather infuriating to me.


Please come around again, it's always good to read someone else's take on the world and its problems.

11:11 PM  
Blogger NotClauswitz said...

Air car?? Does it fly!?! The Furture is finally here!!!
Gadzooks! These people not only believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but worship Pie-In-The-Sky too!

4:18 PM  

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